Romans 8:29-30 tell us:
“Because those he foreknew, he also predestined them to conform to the image of his Son, that he may be the firstborn among many brothers; and those whom he predestined he also called; and those he called he also justified; and those he justified he also glorified”.
Ephesians 1:5 e 11 declares: “[He has us] predestined in his love to be adopted through Jesus Christ as his children, according to the benevolent design of his will […]. In him we have also been made heirs, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who does everything according to the decision of his own will”.
Many people harbor a strong hostility to the doctrine of predestination. however, predestination is a biblical doctrine. The key is to understand what the concept of predestination means, biblically.
Words translated “fated” in the aforementioned Scriptures they derive from the Greek term proorizo, which carries the meaning of “determine in advance”, “to sort”, “decide
re in advance”. therefore, predestination has to do with God making certain things happen in advance. What things it is? Second Romans 8:29-30, God predetermined that certain individuals were conformed to the image of His Son, were called, giustificare out of the glorified Lord. Basically, God predetermined that certain individuals were saved. Numerous scriptures refer to the fact that believers in Christ have been chosen (Matteo 24:22, 31; Marco 13:20, 27; Romans 8:33; 9:11; 11:5-7, 28; Ephesians 1:11; Colossesi 3:12; 1 Tessalonicesi 1:4; 1 Timoteo 5:21; 2 Timoteo 2:10; Tito 1:1; 1 Pietro 1:1-2; 2:9; 2 Pietro 1:10). Predestination is the biblical doctrine that God, in His sovereignty, he chooses that certain individuals be saved.
The most common objection to the doctrine of predestination is that it is unjust. Because God would choose certain individuals and not others? The important thing to remember is that no one deserves to be saved. We have all sinned (Romans 3:23) and we deserve eternal punishment (Romans 6:23). As a result, God would be perfectly right in allowing everyone to spend eternity in hell. however, God has chosen to save some of us. He has not been unfair to those he has not chosen because they will receive what they deserve. By choosing to be gracious to some, God is not unfair to others. Nobody deserves anything from God - so nobody can object if they get nothing from Him. An example would be to give money to 5 people in a group of 20. The 15 who have not received anything should get angry? They probably will. They have the right to do so? No. Because? Because I didn't owe anyone any money. I just decided to be good to some of them.
The Bible never says that God will reject those who believe in Him or reject those who seek Him (Deuteronomy 4:29). Somehow, in the mystery of God, predestination works hand in hand with a person who is drawn to God (Giovanni 6:44) and believes for salvation (Romans 1:16). God predestines who will be saved and will draw us to himself according to his pre-established plan, as Thessalonians also says:
But we must always thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because God from the beginning elected you to salvation through sanctification in the Spirit and faith in the truth. 2Tessalonicesi 2:13
What does this mean? God elected us even before Creation, he called us to himself by making us accept Jesus and he saved us. All according to his plan. Believing that man is able to save himself on his own, or even that he alone has the faculty to receive the gift of faith and to accept it is not biblical, but a concept of human pride. Incredible as it may seem, this is how God has established, so that salvation works. We are called to evangelize and we are the means by which God calls his elect.
You have faith? You accepted Christ as the savior? Good, you are a chosen one.
You have no faith? You don't care? Good, then do not criticize this doctrine or divine injustice, you are nobody to criticize God and his choices, because so much you don't care about being saved and you can't suffer from it!
Note: the doctrine of predestination was highlighted in the Bible by John Calvin in the period of the Reformation, but it dates back to Sant'Agostino which he published On the Predestination of the Saints during the very first centuries. All historical Protestant churches to follow, all denominations, they incorporated this doctrine as the foundation for understanding the Bible and the concept of sin. The Calvinist doctrine of predestination is opposed to Arminianism proclaimed by Arminius, that the Catholic Church and Jehovah's Witnesses still carry on, an inconsistent and anti-Biblical concept. The conception according to which we are good enough to be saved and we are the architects with our choices gives man, sinner by nature, a capacity that he cannot have and places him on a haughty plane towards his Creator. Since God is perfect instead, does not let man finish his plan and make his decisions, because what follows would be a disaster! God is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent, knows past, present and future, we must not forget it. Sometimes it is forgotten though!
Sorry ChristianFaith,but Grace and' been given to all who,given an act of infinite goodness' and mercy from God,they will be justified by faith.,against whom any evangelical preaching would be in vain!Dio ha tanto amato l'uomo da darci addirittura suo Figlio!Creation has given us to us .. we may or may not extend our hand to him?I think so and I do not believe that salvation is denied in this case .. if someone else does not want it' welcome God well… then it's his problem… but imagine a selector God,dal "pollice verso"che avrebbe predstinato ancor prima della creazione i "sommersi e i salvati"non so,but it seems hard to accept…
Grace was given to some chosen God. La "grazia e la fede sono un DONO di Dio". Non c'è nulla che possiamo fare se Dio non ha deciso di convertire una persona, you thought about it? We pray and pray but if God does not put his hand on us, that friend of ours does not convert, and it does not depend on him, ma è lo SS che non gli si mostra perchè Dio non l'aveva messo nei suoi piani. It does not depend on us. We are corrupt in original sin and are atheists by nature, "nessuno può venire a me se non lo attira il Padre" Jesus said(Giovanni 6:44) e ancora "Tutti quelli che il Padre mi dà verranno a me; and he who comes to me, I will not cast him out (Giovanni 6:37). Think about what this means in depth? E' God who attracts future believers. It is necessary to have spiritual maturity and understand that God says this, even though it may seem strange to us we must not trust our wicked and corrupt heart but only the Word of God, and understand that in all of Scripture, dall'AT el NT emerge elezione da parte di Dio, starting with Abel on Cain, from his choice of the chosen people (Israel – why Israel?) to the choice of the prophets to speak to (perchè uno e non l'altro?), to the choice of the apostles, to the choice of Paul who persecuted him and did not seek him at all (why me?" said Paolo humiliated?). You have to understand that, if you believe God's Word, God is sovereign and chooses who he wants. Unjust God? Who are we to object to his choices? Everyone else in biblical history should have objected as well then? Remember that we are all sinners and we ALL deserve to die, for this if He chooses some believers (e la prova dell'elezione è il fatto di avere la fede) and enlightens them we must only humble ourselves before him and thank him. This comes out of the Bible and the passages that speak of it are many. Mica c'è bisogno che te li cito? Sai, se nella Bibbia vi è la parola "eletti" vi deve pur essere un'elezione, said Spurgeon.
A sick child who is unaware of his illness is therefore predestined?
Answer this sweet ChristianFaith….
Michy.
Method, I don't understand the meaning of your question. Biblical predestination is about salvation, that is, people predestined by God, who accept the faith and go to the Kingdom of Heaven. It is God who predestined them even before his Creation. Not in my opinion, but according to God.
Now, about what you say, I tell you:
Then Jesus called them to him and said: “Let the children come to me, and don't forbid it, because the kingdom of God is for those who look like them. In truth I tell you: anyone who does not welcome the kingdom of God like a child, will not enter at all ". Luca 18:16-17
All children go to the Kingdom of God, all children who die children, and on this i don't rain. It doesn't matter if they have faith, as children cannot know the concept of faith.
Everything that happens on this world, including the deaths and sufferings that God allows, they are part of his plan:
Now we know that all things work together for the good of those who love God, which are named according to his design. Romans 8:28
There is always a reason for what happens, however sad it may be to accept these things, however terrible for us, we cannot do anything about it and there is always a reason that works for our eternal salvation, which is the most important thing. Earthly life is nothing compared to goodness in the sight of God in his Kingdom.
Also Jesus clearly says:
Who will try to save his life, he will lose it; but who will lose it, will preserve it. Luca 17:33
Wanting to make us understand that we must not be tied to this earthly life, and if we will understand this, we will be rewarded. There is nothing wrong with wanting to live, it's normal and right in his eyes, but He wants us to understand that there is something very much, very wonderful that awaits us, even if now we only know this life.
Now Micky I don't know what ails you, I hope nothing serious, anyhow, if you have any doubts or problems of any kind, I invite you to write to my email privately. I hope that there is no personal suffering behind this comment.
God bless you!
If one is predestined (against his will) perchè deve "perseverare fino alla fine" to be saved? allora entra in gioco la volontà dell'uomo!!
No, see, questa è la confusione che si fa sul termine "predestinazione" (or election). If you are predestined by God, He will send his Spirit upon you and convert you, it will induce you to seek him and to convert. He will give you a gift of faith (as it is said in Ephesians). Faith is a gift from God and is not asked, it is He who gives it to us! There is no predestined against his will, because the predestined are the converted Christians, and they did not convert by their own will as some self-willed and stubborn human beings believe. They believe they are so spiritual and good that they reach God and faith with their will (practically with their work), but we are under sin and are unable to understand spiritual things if God does not put His hand on us and take the veil off our eyes. Quando dice "chi avrà perseverato fino alla fine sarà salvato" explains how faith is accomplished, that is, we can understand from our perseverance whether we are elected or not. Because there are also temporary Christians, who believe they are Christians and then abandon the faith. Well those weren't God's elect. The elect are those who persevere, and perseverance never comes from us, but from God, under whose sovereignty everything over the world happens. In poche parole quel verso spiega come accade e non l'origine di quel che accade e il perchè. Only God knows this. True faith that comes from God, the one who saves, it will never be lost, because you are a chosen one!